ambassador john bolton. he vigorously opposed it. senator mccain has every right to do that as well. i do think it was -- i have been in that position as susan rice, i would have been buoyed by the fact that president obama defended me. loyalty goes both ways. i think they have a problem here. one of the reasons the story keeps at it is they are refusing to recognize that there are legitimate question questions. every day more facts are uncovered to make it look worse for them. >> eric: can i point something out? i don't like hillary clinton's politics or bill clinton's politics. but hillary clinton was a good secretary of state. >> andrea: why? >> eric: she was tough. >> andrea: on what? >> eric: she didn't back down and she had ideas, thought about things and she did it her way. my point, susan rice won't be hillary clinton. susan rice will be a mouthpiece for president obama and not the american people. >> bob: curious, check this out and see if mccain and graham had such problems did they vote for her for-up? my guess is they pro